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		<title>By: xMonkeyMosherx</title>
		<link>http://blog.disobedience.be/hardcore/real-straight-edge-vs-nazi-fucks/comment-page-1/#comment-33797</link>
		<dc:creator>xMonkeyMosherx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but I have to close the comments on this post because I get thousands spam comments each day.</description>
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		<title>By: Marcus Gault</title>
		<link>http://blog.disobedience.be/hardcore/real-straight-edge-vs-nazi-fucks/comment-page-1/#comment-32966</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Gault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone ever thought the world would be better off without these ideals and beliefs? Last i checked groups of any type no matter what they set out to achieve only casue more fighting in the long run. My opinion is live life as it comes, follow your own common sense (its in there somewhere) and accept your mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone ever thought the world would be better off without these ideals and beliefs? Last i checked groups of any type no matter what they set out to achieve only casue more fighting in the long run. My opinion is live life as it comes, follow your own common sense (its in there somewhere) and accept your mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: xMonkeyMosherx</title>
		<link>http://blog.disobedience.be/hardcore/real-straight-edge-vs-nazi-fucks/comment-page-1/#comment-32014</link>
		<dc:creator>xMonkeyMosherx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That kind of comment doesn&#039;t give a better image of straight edge...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That kind of comment doesn&#8217;t give a better image of straight edge&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Striaght Edge fate sXe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Striaght Edge fate sXe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, fuck you all, Striaght edge is for winners, and if your not, your just a loser, im on the side with Jesus with Straight Edge. so fuck you fagets, Straight edge for life bitches</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, fuck you all, Striaght edge is for winners, and if your not, your just a loser, im on the side with Jesus with Straight Edge. so fuck you fagets, Straight edge for life bitches</p>
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		<title>By: xJk0x</title>
		<link>http://blog.disobedience.be/hardcore/real-straight-edge-vs-nazi-fucks/comment-page-1/#comment-31712</link>
		<dc:creator>xJk0x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of being Straight edge proudly, tongue is his 14/88. I am tired of the Fascist, for saying that his race is pure denying his descent, of his racist image scatterbrained person.
Prostitute is the mother of every Nazi, up to the victory always!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of being Straight edge proudly, tongue is his 14/88. I am tired of the Fascist, for saying that his race is pure denying his descent, of his racist image scatterbrained person.<br />
Prostitute is the mother of every Nazi, up to the victory always!</p>
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		<title>By: xMonkeyMosherx</title>
		<link>http://blog.disobedience.be/hardcore/real-straight-edge-vs-nazi-fucks/comment-page-1/#comment-31047</link>
		<dc:creator>xMonkeyMosherx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here what you see more is drunk people making fun of straight edge kids because they don&#039;t drink...And if we had a huge hardline community like 10-15 years, it&#039;s almost gone now and straight edge isn&#039;t really cool over here ;) We have nothing like the big sxe crews or &quot;gangs&quot; that you can find in Reno or Salt Lake City. Anyway, thanks for the comments and your open mind :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here what you see more is drunk people making fun of straight edge kids because they don&#8217;t drink&#8230;And if we had a huge hardline community like 10-15 years, it&#8217;s almost gone now and straight edge isn&#8217;t really cool over here ;) We have nothing like the big sxe crews or &#8220;gangs&#8221; that you can find in Reno or Salt Lake City. Anyway, thanks for the comments and your open mind :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.  I&#039;m glad that you&#039;re giving a different name to Straight Edge then what I see here in the States... I can only hope that it&#039;s true that you&#039;re in the majority else where, and hopefully the U.S. part will follow suite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. I&#8217;m glad that you&#8217;re giving a different name to Straight Edge then what I see here in the States&#8230; I can only hope that it&#8217;s true that you&#8217;re in the majority else where, and hopefully the U.S. part will follow suite.</p>
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		<title>By: xMonkeyMosherx</title>
		<link>http://blog.disobedience.be/hardcore/real-straight-edge-vs-nazi-fucks/comment-page-1/#comment-31043</link>
		<dc:creator>xMonkeyMosherx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Jamin I think what you say isn&#039;t totally true, even if it has some interesting points. Of course there are some stupid intolerant straight edgers that will beat or even kill people because they smoke or drink, but thats the the majority. That&#039;s what we call the hardliners. BUT maybe I&#039;m wrong because my point of view is from an European standpoint. Hardcore and sxe aren&#039;t the same over here as in the US. They are not as big in the States, there is also less violence, etc. My point is: I probably didnt choose the most neutral lyrics (you&#039;re totally right there) but still, I don&#039;t think the majority of straight edgers are stupid violent people that hate non-straight edgers.

But thanks for your comment because it shows a big problem that exists, particularly in the US, where straight edgers can be very intolerant people. As you said, some guys will make trouble for stupid reasons and that has nothing to do with sxe! Stupid people are stupid people, straight edge or not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Jamin I think what you say isn&#8217;t totally true, even if it has some interesting points. Of course there are some stupid intolerant straight edgers that will beat or even kill people because they smoke or drink, but thats the the majority. That&#8217;s what we call the hardliners. BUT maybe I&#8217;m wrong because my point of view is from an European standpoint. Hardcore and sxe aren&#8217;t the same over here as in the US. They are not as big in the States, there is also less violence, etc. My point is: I probably didnt choose the most neutral lyrics (you&#8217;re totally right there) but still, I don&#8217;t think the majority of straight edgers are stupid violent people that hate non-straight edgers.</p>
<p>But thanks for your comment because it shows a big problem that exists, particularly in the US, where straight edgers can be very intolerant people. As you said, some guys will make trouble for stupid reasons and that has nothing to do with sxe! Stupid people are stupid people, straight edge or not!</p>
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		<title>By: Jamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MonkeyMosher, you talk about how straight edge is all about equality, tolerance, and &quot;rejects any form of discrimination&quot;, yet even in the song lyrics you cite as examples, there is a clear message of discrimination:
&quot;We’re all friends if you’re not high&quot;
I certainly agree that a tweeker high on meth isn&#039;t someone who&#039;s very fun to be moshing with, but I also heard a story from my home town a few years back that talked of a young black man with dreads who was having lunch with his brother... when they walked away from the restaurant a couple straight edgers who were eating there as well followed them and killed the guy with dreads because, as they said, he looked like someone who smokes weed.  How is that tolerance???  I had a friend go to a metal show where he was beat up by a group of straight edgers while moshing... So long for the &quot;I’ll pick you up if you fall on me.
We’ll mosh in the pit of equality&quot; mentality.  While this may not be the ideals that all straight edgers live by, this what a majority of straight edgers are telling the communities where they live.  I don&#039;t think that straight edge has anything to do with racism, or white pride, or anything like that... but they definitely give an image of violence and hatred to people who don&#039;t completely agree with what they think is right.  Last I checked that&#039;s the definition of bigotry and intolerance.  So before you bitch about what the public thinks about your group, look at what a majority of your group is doing.  If you still choose to be a part of that - even if you choose the part that &quot;is about being a better person, being open minded, having respect for yourself and others, doing positive things…and is totally against any form of intolerance or hate!&quot; - then accept what the public may view the rest of the group as, and know that you aren&#039;t part of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MonkeyMosher, you talk about how straight edge is all about equality, tolerance, and &#8220;rejects any form of discrimination&#8221;, yet even in the song lyrics you cite as examples, there is a clear message of discrimination:<br />
&#8220;We’re all friends if you’re not high&#8221;<br />
I certainly agree that a tweeker high on meth isn&#8217;t someone who&#8217;s very fun to be moshing with, but I also heard a story from my home town a few years back that talked of a young black man with dreads who was having lunch with his brother&#8230; when they walked away from the restaurant a couple straight edgers who were eating there as well followed them and killed the guy with dreads because, as they said, he looked like someone who smokes weed. How is that tolerance??? I had a friend go to a metal show where he was beat up by a group of straight edgers while moshing&#8230; So long for the &#8220;I’ll pick you up if you fall on me.<br />
We’ll mosh in the pit of equality&#8221; mentality. While this may not be the ideals that all straight edgers live by, this what a majority of straight edgers are telling the communities where they live. I don&#8217;t think that straight edge has anything to do with racism, or white pride, or anything like that&#8230; but they definitely give an image of violence and hatred to people who don&#8217;t completely agree with what they think is right. Last I checked that&#8217;s the definition of bigotry and intolerance. So before you bitch about what the public thinks about your group, look at what a majority of your group is doing. If you still choose to be a part of that &#8211; even if you choose the part that &#8220;is about being a better person, being open minded, having respect for yourself and others, doing positive things…and is totally against any form of intolerance or hate!&#8221; &#8211; then accept what the public may view the rest of the group as, and know that you aren&#8217;t part of that.</p>
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		<title>By: blije_ties</title>
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		<dc:creator>blije_ties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howl is a man that makes sense. :)
But no matter how you put it, people that confuse the sXe movement with a political view haven&#039;t realy gotten the message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howl is a man that makes sense. :)<br />
But no matter how you put it, people that confuse the sXe movement with a political view haven&#8217;t realy gotten the message.</p>
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